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Ask Alan #173 – Rolling Out Of The Money Strikes Early in The Contract

Alan answers a question posed by Lisa, who asks:

Alan, I am trying to figure out how to use the What Now tab and wonder if you can assist me with the following situation. I (fake) bought Shopify (SHOP) on Monday for $466.50 at a strike of 500 for a bid of $13.40. Today, the stock has risen to $475.64 with an Ask buy back price of $17.45. I was thinking possibly to roll-out or roll-out-and-up and was trying to understand the calculations within the What Now tab of The Ellman Calculator. If I wanted to roll out, using the same strike of 500 and same date of call, Feb 21, in an attempt to Hit a Double and the spreadsheet shows minimal gain or a loss. Can you kindly advise me what I’m doing wrong? Thanks! Lisa

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About Alan Ellman

Alan Ellman loves options trading so much he has written four top selling books on the topic of selling covered calls, one about put-selling and a sixth book about long-term investing. Alan is a national speaker for The Money Show, The Stock Traders Expo and the American Association of Individual Investors. He also writes financial columns for both US and International publications along with his own award-winning blog.. He is a retired dentist, a personal fitness trainer, successful real estate investor, but he is known mostly for his practical and successful stock option strategies.

6 Responses to “Ask Alan #173 – Rolling Out Of The Money Strikes Early in The Contract”

  1. Alan Ellman August 12, 2020 5:36 pm #

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  3. Steve H August 13, 2020 9:13 am #

    Hi Alan,

    Hope you’re doing well!

    This past week with a pullback, a few of my calls were triggered using the 10% rule. Happened to three of them and the fundamentals were mixed.

    I should have been more patient and allowed the stock to do what it needed to. Instead I was more conservative and didn’t wait long enough. In other words, I sold another call at or near the my and now I’m watching the stock go back up.

    It appears I might miss out on a couple of potential doubles because I was impatient. I’m guessing if the fundamentals are mixed to bullish, I shouldn’t feel guilty about letting the stock sit there without a call and place correct? But with August 21st coming up to us next week, I felt the need to try to get some more premium while I still could.

    In hindsight I should have just waited a little longer or maybe went for the next month expiration date. Feel like I get caught in limbo when my calls are triggered with the 10% rule and the stock is sitting there by itself.

    Generally speaking with one week left, do you wait it out or sometimes just go for it the following expiration date to collect premium.

    Thanks in advance,

    • Alan Ellman August 13, 2020 11:46 am #


      You should be feeling proud of yourself, not beating yourself up.

      Generally speaking, in the BCI methodology we do favor rolling-down over looking to “hit a double” in the latter part of a contract. I would have taken the same action you did.

      The lesson we can take away from this experience is that we would all look smarter in hindsight.

      Keep up the good work.


      • Steve H August 13, 2020 11:51 am #

        Thanks for the feedback Alan!

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